(01-26-2021, 06:56 AM)TomC Wrote: I wonder where they get these. Either priced at $750.
https://davesguitar.com/products/Eastman...la-crosse/
I don't know how they do it either, but I have a theory. I bought my 2020 E8D used from them for $795. Basically a brand new E8D for over $300 off. My E8D didn't come with a COA or certificate of authenticity.
My theory is that the used Eastman's Dave's sell are guitars that never passed the final QC in Pomona or wherever the final QC facility is for Eastman.
I think there is some defect preventing Eastman from giving it a final or legitimate certificate of authenticity, and then Eastman sells it to Dave's at a discount. If there is no COA, then Eastman doesn't have to warranty any future issues which devalues the guitar. Dave's probably buys it from Eastman at several hundred off, and thus they can share those savings with their used Eastman offerings.
Or there is some type of flaw with the guitar, and then Eastman sells it as-is to Dave's who then fixes it.
My E8D has a noticeable gap where the heel/neck meets the body. Mine also had some noticeable finish marks on the neck, and I can physically feel the imperfections on the neck. I didn't experience either issue with the other 2 Eastman's that I bought as brand new.
I'm might be wrong, but I think the used Eastmans that Dave's sells are the B-Stock that Eastman doesn't fully authenticate or pass through final QC.
None of Dave's used Eastmans include a COA, and there's a reason for that.
Another thing I noticed is that the used Eastman's at Dave's all have a manufactured date no older than a year. Mine was bought in 2020, and it was manufactured in 2020. To me, this further proves they are newly manufactured B-Stock Eastman guitars.
If the used stock at Dave's included a COA or were older, then I would just think that they are truly used or multi owner guitars. Most used guitars still include the COA
But they are always basically brand new yet used guitars, and they NEVER have the COA.
That's my theory, and to me it's the only logical explanation.